Traeger Timberline 850 Wi-Fi grill review: The ideal smoker/barbecue for the smart home

If you’re planning a cookout for Super Bowl Sunday and need a new grill for the job, the high-tech Traeger Timberline 850 Wi-Fi pellet grill deserves your consideration.

Let’s focus first on what makes this pricey grill a great addition to a smart home, and then I’ll discuss what distinguishes a pellet grill such as this from the more familiar charcoal and gas-fired grills. The Timberline 850 connects to your Wi-Fi network, of course, which means you can fire it up, load your food, and pretty much not have to come back until everything’s cooked.

Instead of running to the grill at every commercial break, you can just sneak the occasional glance at the Traeger app on your smartphone or tablet. The grill streams the temperature inside the grill to the app, while a probe reports the internal temperature of the food you’re cooking (there’s just one probe, so you’ll need to decide what to monitor if you’re cooking more than one thing at a time).

timberline 850 racks Michael Brown / IDG

Three adjustable racks provide 850 square inches of cooking surface, although the food on the bottom rack will obviously cook the fastest.

And it’s easy to cook several things at once, because the Timberline 850 has three adjustable grills offering 850 square inches of grilling surface. As Traeger puts it, there’s enough capacity to here cook nine chickens, eight rib racks, or six pork butts at once.

The Timberline 850 is also equipped with a monochrome LCD that displays the grill and probe temperatures as well as other important information. You can set the desired cooking temperature from either the app (using your smartphone or tablet as a remote control) or with a dial on the grill itself.

Automating your cook

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The Traeger app has more than 1,000 recipes. Select one, tap the Cook Now button, and the app will set the appropriate cooking temperature on the grill.

But one of the other big advantages of being connected to Wi-Fi is that you can use the app to choose from more than 1,000 recipes based on what you’d like to cook. You can filter recipes according to the main ingredient (beef, pork, poultry, seafood, and so on); the cooking method (barbecue, roast, smoke, etc.); the number of servings you’re preparing; the cook time, including prep time; and even by the pellet fuel you have on hand or the hardwood flavor you’re looking to impart to the food (more on that later).

The recipe’s degree of difficulty (on a scale of 1 to 5), separate times for prep and cook time, and the recommended wood species are all listed at the top of the app. It would be great if the app recalculated the ingredients and cook and prep times based on the number of servings you want to prepare. But once you’ve selected a recipe, you simply tap the Cook Now button. You still need to push a button on the grill itself to ignite the fire—there are some things that just wouldn’t be safe to do via remote control, after all—but the app will send the target cooking and probe temperatures to the grill. If the recipe calls for smoking the food, the app will send that information to the grill as well.

Cooking with the Timberline 850 is not an entirely set-it-and-forget-it affair, though. While there is a timer on the grill itself (and two in the app, including a discrete timer for preparing sauces), neither will automatically shut down the grill or switch it to its Keep Warm setting when the timer expires. The same is true of the probe—the app and the display on the grill itself will report the target and current temperature, but nothing happens when that target is reached, you need to take action when the cook is over.

timberline 850 display Michael Brown / IDG

You won’t need to pull out and unlock your smartphone if you’re standing in front of the grill: This LCD displays the most important information you’ll need to see.

And while you will get a warning if the grill’s internal temperature goes higher than 500 degrees—as happened to me the first time I cooked with the grill—you won’t get any warning if the internal temperature drops precipitously below the targeted cooking range.

Read the manual, but watch the videos, too

Some assembly is required when you bring the Timberline 850 home from the store, and the instructions in the printed user-manual that Traeger provides with the grill aren’t great. As a result, I did not install the grease drip tray correctly the first time, and during my first cook—a glorious prime rib—the drippings from the roast flowed to the back of the grill instead of forward and into the grease channel. After about an hour, a grease fire erupted. Fortunately, I was able to put the fire out without ruining the meat.

To be clear, the grease fire was user error—in other words, it was my fault and not due to a Traeger design error. But Traeger’s assembly manual needs work. I discovered later, however, that Traeger has also produced some excellent videos, available online, including ones that show you exactly how to assemble the grill. Other videos focus on everything from recipes to routine maintenance and troubleshooting, and they’re available on the web as well as within the app itself. If you buy one of these grills, I heartily recommend watching the assembly videos before putting yours together.

timberline 850 roast prime rib Michael Brown / IDG

The roasted prime rib came out perfect, despite the grease fire the numbskull chef caused.

What’s a pellet grill?

Traeger specializes in pellet grills, which operate very differently from gas or charcoal rigs. You load food-grade wooden pellets into a hopper—the Timberline has a big one that handle up to 24 pounds—and an auger gradually moves them into a firepot. An electric element in the firepot heats the pellets until they catch fire, generating heat and—if you want it—smoke. A fan circulates the heat and smoke inside the barrel-shaped enclosure cooking the food with convection heat, evenly and from all sides at once.

Burning pellets offers several advantages over charcoal and gas, the latter of which imparts no flavor at all to the food you’re cooking. First, it’s very easy to maintain a consistent temperature inside the grill. I cooked more than a dozen meals on the Timberline 850 and its internal temperature rarely moved more than five to 10 degrees to either side of the target I programmed. Once your food is cooked, you can activate a “keep warm” setting that will ensure that it stays warm without being overcooked.

Second, you can choose different flavors of wood to burn. Traeger manufactures eight varieties of pellets, including alder, apple, cherry, hickory, maple, mesquite, oak, and pecan. Scroll down this page on the Traeger website to see which species of wood is best for beef, pork, lamb, seafood, veggies, and even baked goods (you can use the grill like any other convection oven).

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A view of the auger that draws the wood pellets from the hopper into the grill’s firepot.

Traeger also offers various blends for all-purpose cooks. A door on the back of the hopper lets you dump unused pellets into a bucket when you want to change out the flavor (Traeger also recommends emptying the hopper after a cook, so that the pellets aren’t exposed to moisture, which will cause them to swell or even disintegrate). Most pellets cost about $19 for a 20-pound bag, so the cost of supplies is one of the drawbacks of the pellet approach. Charcoal and propane are both much less expensive grilling fuels.

But pellets burn a lot cleaner than charcoal: There’s much less ash to dispose of, and what ash there is is relatively contained in and around the firepot. And because you’re cooking with a more indirect heat, there’s less of a chance that food will stick to the grill. The downside, on the other hand, is that it’s more difficult to get those appealing sear marks on your food, because the grill doesn’t get as hot. (Some of Traeger’s competitors provide a searing box for just that purpose.)

Temperature control

traeger app 1 Michael Brown / IDG

Traeger’s app reports the target and current temperatures for both the grill and the food probe. The app’s dual timers—one for preparing sauce—aren’t as useful as they could be. They only inform you when time has expired, they don’t control the grill.

Traeger says the grill can cook from a low temperature of 165 degrees Fahrenheit to a high temp of 500 F. While these conditions might not be conducive to sear marks, I found the easy cleanup, which required just a wire brush to clean the grill, to be a perfectly acceptable trade-off. I never needed to scrape or scour any surfaces.

Now that’s not to say there is no cleanup needed. It’s easy enough to toss the disposable aluminum drip tray liner after a cook, but cleaning the grease out of everywhere else it accumulates is no more pleasant a task than it is with any other grill. That said, most of the grease gets channeled to a removable tray underneath the fire chamber (provided you’ve installed the grease drip tray correctly, that is).

I mentioned earlier that neither the grill nor the app will warn you when the temperature inside the barbecue falls significantly below the target range. Opening the Timberline 850’s lid will cause the temperature to drop rapidly by 100 degrees or more, so expect cook times to be a little longer than anticipated if you’re frequently opening the grill to baste your food. The temperature probe will otherwise greatly reduce the need to check on your cook frequently, but again, there’s only one probe.

One problem I encountered, however, was that gravity alone was sometimes not sufficient to cause the pellets to fall down into the hole where the auger is located, beneath the hopper. This will of course starve the grill of fuel, causing the cooking temperature to drop. There’s a grate covering the top of the hopper to prevent you from sticking your fingers in there—getting a finger caught in the auger would cause serious injuries—so on longer cooks, I’ve been using a skewer to stir the pellets every 30 minutes or so, to prevent them from sticking together. Traeger should consider installing a vibrating plate at the bottom of the hopper to encourage the pellets to redistribute evenly. That would help them fall into the auger without needing help.

Does it justify its price tag?

The Timberline 850 carries a list price of $1,699. That’s a lot of coin for a backyard grill in anyone’s book. Compared to the price of a high-end oven or range that you’d install in your kitchen, on the other, it’s not so pricey. Still, Traeger expects you to pay a lot for this grill’s performance and its whiz-bang features. There are much cheaper alternatives that don’t connect to Wi-Fi, that don’t have accompanying remote-control apps, and that don’t automate the cooking process the way the Timberline 850 does.

This pellet smoker/grill is made for people like me who enjoy the outcome of barbecuing and smoking much more than the process. I don’t have the time or the patience to constantly check temperatures, fuel levels, air flow, cook time, and other minutiae. The Timberline 850 comes very close to set and forget. It’s not perfect, but it never failed to cook an impressive meal, even when I wasn’t paying attention or following directions to the letter.

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Baker Dill (Matthew McConaughey) is a fishing boat captain leading tours off a tranquil, tropical enclave called Plymouth Island. His quiet life is shattered, however, when his ex-wife Karen (Anne Hathaway) tracks him down with a desperate plea for help. She begs Dill to save her – and their young son – from her new, violent husband (Jason Clarke) by taking him out to sea on a fishing excursion, only to throw him to the sharks and leave him for dead. Karen’s appearance thrusts Dill back into a life he’d tried to forget, and as he struggles between right and wrong, his world is plunged into a new reality that may not be all that it seems.


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Apple escalates its fight with Facebook following report of data-collecting iPhone app

Apple has had it up to here with Facebook. Following a report by TechCrunch Tuesday night that the company had circumvented the App Store to distribute a “research” app to users, Apple has revoked a developer license from the social media giant, effectively shutting down any iOS apps that haven’t already been approved for the App Store.

While the move won’t have an effect on your ability to post and message your friends using your iPhone, Facebook employees will certainly feel the repercussions. Without the developer certificate, Facebook’s internal iOS apps, which likely include beta versions of its consumer apps as well as company-specific resources, will no longer work. Apple hasn’t indicated whether this is a temporary ban or how it will monitor Facebook’s activities in the future, but it sends a clear message: Play by our rules or pay the price.

Why this matters: Facebook and Apple are two of the biggest companies in the world, but they need each other to survive. If this fight ever reached the point where Apple removed Facebook from the App Store, both companies would feel the effects, so there’s a certain amount of gamesmanship being played here. However, Apple’s reputation is far more at risk than Facebook’s at this point, so this likely amounts to the final warning.

Research without development

The app at the center of the controversy was revealed by TechCrunch Tuesday night. Called Facebook Research, the app is basically a virtual private network that opens a portal between Facebook and whomever is running it, which the company used to collect “all of a user’s phone and web activity,” according to the report. In return for unfettered access, Facebook paid users—which included children as young as 13—up to $20 per month.

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Facebook has been running a “Research” app on iPhones for years right under Apple’s nose.

While the merits of the program can be debated, the nefarious method of delivery cannot. Apple clearly states that participants in its Enterprise Developer Program cannot distribute apps outside of the company: “We designed our Enterprise Developer Program solely for the internal distribution of apps within an organization,” an Apple spokesperson said. “Facebook has been using their membership to distribute a data-collecting app to consumers, which is a clear breach of their agreement with Apple. Any developer using their enterprise certificates to distribute apps to consumers will have their certificates revoked, which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.”

To circumvent Apple’s sandbox, Facebook used beta testing services other than Apple’s own TestFlight, including Applause, BetaBound, and uTest to hide the app’s true identity. The app’s primary function is similar to the Onavo VPN that Apple removed from the App Store in August for heavy-handed data gathering.

A hard slap on the wrist

But while Apple is certainly playing hard ball, it’s also giving Facebook something of a pass. While revocation of the license will cause a temporary headache for Facebook and its employees, Apple will still allow Facebook to distribute its apps through the App Store. It also isn’t addressing the root of the issue, which is that Facebook was able to run its Research App undetected for more than two years despite Apple’s claims that “What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone.” It’s basically a firm slap on the wrist.

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Apple took out a giant billboard in Las Vegas to tout its privacy stance during CES.

For its part, Facebook admits to running the app, but is challenging the media’s assessment of the story. In a statement, the beleaguered social media giant asserts that “there was nothing ‘secret’ about the app” and participants “went through a clear on-boarding process asking for their (or their parents’) permission and were paid to participate.” Facebook says it shut down the app on iOS on its own accord, though it still continues to operate on Android phones.

But as far as Apple is concerned, the case is cut and dried: Facebook violated its terms of service in a big way. Not only does it skip Apple’s review process, but it collects a staggering amount of data, according to TechCrunch, including, “private messages in social media apps, chats from instant messaging apps…emails, web searches, web browsing activity, and even ongoing location information.” To get its hands on such a treasure trove of data, the Facebook Research app required the installation of a new profile on the user’s iPhone as well as root certificate access, which could open up the iPhone to malware in addition to the open portal to Facebook.

Tim Cook hasn’t personally commented on the revelation, but he’s offered thinly veiled criticisms of Facebook’s data-collecting practices in the past.

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This powerful gaming PC packs an 8-core Ryzen CPU and Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1070 for just $800

Sometimes it really pays to buy a prebuilt gaming machine rather than rolling your own. Newegg is selling a powerful ABS Battlebox Essential gaming PC with an 8-core Ryzen 7 2700 processor and Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1070 for just $800 after a $600 discount. That’s a great price considering you’d pay $600 to $650 just for that processor and graphics card alone in a DIY build. It’s not clear when this sale price ends.

This desktop PC comes in a nice looking case with red accents and a transparent side panel that shows off all your hardware. The processor is an eight core, 3.2GHz Ryzen 7 2700. ABS doesn’t specify much about the graphics card other than it’s an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070. That’s a great graphics card for 1440p gaming at 60 frames per second, or ultra-fast 1080p gaming.

The Battlebox Essential ships with 8GB of RAM—a solid start, though you may want to upgrade eventually to 16GB. It also has a 120GB SSD boot drive paired with and a 1TB spinning hard drive for storage. For ports, you’ve got two HDMI 2.0, two DisplayPort 1.4, one DVI-D, one USB 3.1 Type C, five USB 3.1 Type A, and two USB 2.0.

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In 1962, Tony “Tony Lip” Vallelonga, a tough bouncer, is looking for work with his nightclub is closed for renovations. The most promising offer turns out to be the driver for the African-American classical pianist Don Shirley for a concert tour into the Deep South states. Although hardly enthused at working for a black man, Tony accepts the job and they begin their trek armed with The Negro Motorist Green Book, a travel guide for safe travel through America’s racial segregation. Together, the snobbishly erudite pianist and the crudely practical bouncer can barely get along with their clashing attitudes to life and ideals. However, as the disparate pair witness and endure America’s appalling injustices on the road, they find a newfound respect for each other’s talents and heart to face them together. In doing so, they would nurture a friendship and understanding that would change both their lives.
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The Kid Who Would Be King (2019)


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Old school magic meets the modern world in this epic adventure. Alex (Louis Ashbourne Serkis) thinks he’s just another nobody, until he stumbles upon the mythical sword in the stone, Excalibur. Now, he must unite his friends and enemies into a band of knights and, together with the legendary wizard Merlin (Sir Patrick Stewart), take on the wicked enchantress Morgana (Rebecca Ferguson). With the future at stake, Alex must become the great leader he never dreamed he could be.
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Opening Weekend USA:

$7,173,887,
27 January 2019, Wide Release

Gross USA:

$7,533,989, 28 January 2019


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Technical Specs

Runtime:

Aspect Ratio:

2.39 : 1

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